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How the Top 25 (and more) Fared: Nov. 11-17

A look at how all the teams in Division I did this week based on their ranking in the NWCA Division I Men’s Wrestling Coaches Poll.
Here’s a breakdown of how the action unfolded in Division I Men’s Wrestling this past week. Teams are sorted by their rank in the NWCA Division I Coaches Poll, then followed by the teams receiving votes (in the order they received votes), then the unranked teams in alphabetical order.
Highlighted in the dual results are upsets or ranked head-to-head matches of note. Individual rankings are via InterMat.
Top 25
1. Penn State (1-0)
WON Drexel 41-3
133: #9 Braeden Davis (Penn State) over Kyle Waterman (Drexel) D;7-5
165: #1 Mitchell Mesenbrink (Penn State) over #31 Cody Walsh (Drexel) T;21-4
174: #2 Levi Haines (Penn State) over Jack Janda (Drexel) T;16-0
184: #1 Carter Starocci (Penn State) over #32 Giuseppe Hoose (Drexel) T;19-3
285: #1 Greg Kerkvliet (Penn State) over Tanner Updegraff (Drexel) F;1:40

2. Iowa (3-0)
WON Bellarmine 49-0
125: #31 Kale Petersen (Iowa) over Jack Parker (Bellarmine) T;26-6
133: #7 Drake Ayala (Iowa) over Trayce Eckman (Bellarmine) M;14-6
141: #31 Ryder Block (Iowa) over David Mayora (Bellarmine) T;19-4
149: #4 Kyle Parco (Iowa) over Zac Cowan (Bellarmine) T;21-4
157: #1 Jacori Teemer (Iowa) over Gray Ortis (Bellarmine) F;:24
165: #2 Mikey Caliendo (Iowa) over Cole Nance (Bellarmine) T;21-6
174: #6 Nelson Brands (Iowa) over Grant O’Dell (Bellarmine) T;20-5
184: #9 Gabe Arnold (Iowa) over Devan Hendricks (Bellarmine) D;5-3
197: #2 Stephen Buchanan (Iowa) over Andrew Liber (Bellarmine) T;16-1
285: #11 Ben Kueter (Iowa) over Daulton Mayer (Bellarmine) F;:32

3. Oklahoma State (2-0)
WON #24 Oregon State 36-3
WON Utah Valley 38-6
125: #6 Troy Spratley (Oklahoma State) over #24 Maximo Renteria (Oregon State) D;7-4 SV
141: #14 Tagen Jamison (Oklahoma State) over Nash Singleton (Oregon State) M;11-3
149: #17 Carter Young (Oklahoma State) over Ayden Garver (Oregon State) M;14-4
157: #33 Ethan Stiles (Oregon State) over #9 Teague Travis (Oklahoma State) D;7-4
165: #5 Cameron Amine (Oklahoma State) over Murphy Menke (Oregon State) M;13-3
174: #5 Dean Hamiti (Oklahoma State) over #33 Sean Harman (Oregon State) T;18-1
184: #3 Dustin Plott (Oklahoma State) over TJ McDonnell (Oregon State) T;24-8
197: #20 Luke Surber (Oklahoma State) over #7 Trey Munoz (Oregon State) D;5-0
285: #2 Wyatt Hendrickson (Oklahoma State) over Brett Mower (Oregon State) T;16-1

125: #6 Troy Spratley (Oklahoma State) over Bridger Ricks (Utah Valley) D;5-3
141: #27 Haiden Drury (Utah Valley) over Kolter Burton (Oklahoma State) D;5-0
149: #17 Carter Young (Oklahoma State) over Q’Veli Quintanilla (Utah Valley) T;25-9
157: #9 Teague Travis (Oklahoma State) over Ryker Fullmer (Utah Valley) D;5-1
165: #6 Terrell Barraclough (Utah Valley) over #5 Cameron Amine (Oklahoma State) D;4-4 TB RT
174: #5 Dean Hamiti (Oklahoma State) over Mark Takara (Utah Valley) T;20-5
184: #3 Dustin Plott (Oklahoma State) over Caleb Uhlenhopp (Utah Valley) T;20-4
197: #20 Luke Surber (Oklahoma State) over Kael Bennie (Utah Valley) F;5:50
285: #2 Wyatt Hendrickson (Oklahoma State) over Jack Forbes (Utah Valley) T;24-7

4. Nebraska (3-0)
WON #25 North Carolina 34-3
WON Campbell 40-6
125: #27 Anthony Molton (Campbell) over Alan Koehler (Nebraska) D;8-3
133: #22 Domenic Zaccone (Campbell) over #11 Jacob Van Dee (Nebraska) D;4-1 SV … more at … https://mattalkonline.substack.com/p/how-the-top-25-and-more

November 22, 2024 Posted by | Uncategorized | , | Leave a comment

DI Live Streaming Guide (11/21 – 11/24/2024)

We’re already four weeks into the 2024-25 season  and we have a full slate of DI duals this week. A total of 35 duals will be contested. Since it can be difficult to figure out where and when to watch all of these events, InterMat has put together a list of all of the live-streamed events occurring this week. Below are the dates/times and how to watch each match (with links).
To make this guide even easier to find, we’ve added a link on our homepage and the latest Live Streaming Guide will appear right under the header articles. 
All times Eastern

Thursday, November 21:
Indiana at Columbia  7:30 PM  ESPN+
Missouri at Illinois  8:00 PM  B1G+

Friday, November 22:
Seton Hill at VMI  6:00 PM  ESPN+
West Virginia at Appalachian State  7:00 PM  FloWrestling
Michigan at Duke  7:00 PM
Morgan State at Maryland  7:00 PM  B1G+
Minnesota at North Dakota State  7:00 PM  NDSU All-Access
Rutgers at Virginia Tech, 7:00 PM  ACC Network Extra
Embry-Riddle at Arizona State  7:30 PM  ESPN+
Arizona Christian at Arizona State  7:30 PM  ESPN+
Rider at Northern Illinois  8:00 PM  ESPN+ … more at … https://intermatwrestle.com/articles.html/47_streaming-guide/di-live-streaming-guide-1121-11242024-r99757/

November 21, 2024 Posted by | Uncategorized | , , , | Leave a comment

2024 ACTIVE Coaches – Top Dual Wins – D-I

TDR Editor’s Notes ; The following are Active head coaches grouped by divisions. This listing is for coaches of NCAA Division I college teams. We welcome, input such as corrections and additions. Please contact us at the editor’s email … martinkfleming@gmail.com so we can update these lists accurately after each season. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Top 35 Division I ACTIVE Coacheswith at least 70 Wins
1.) John Smith (Oklahoma State Univ.)               490   retired 2024
2.) Tom Borelli (Central Michigan)                     368   retired 2024
3.) Rob Koll (Cornell Univ.)                                339
4.) Brian Smith (Missouri/Syracuse)                    336
5.) Tom Ryan (Ohio State/Hofstra)                     322
6.) Mark Manning (Nebraska/Northern Iowa)     317
7.) Tom Brands (Iowa & Virginia Tech)             294
8.) Jim Zalesky (Oregon State/Iowa)                   278  now at D-II school
9.) Tim Flynn (Edinboro State Univ.)                  264
10.) Joel Greenlee (Ohio Univ.)                            251
11.) Roger Reina (Pennsylvania, Un. Of)              248 
12.) Cael Sanderson (Penn State, Iowa State) –   247
13.) Pat Popolizio (North Carolina St., SUNY-Binghampton) –  245
14.) Kevin Dresser (Iowa State/Virginia Tech Univ.)  241
15.) Pat Santoro (Lehigh University, Maryland)    232
16.) Scott Goodale (Rutgers University) –             221
17.) Jim Andrassy (Kent State Univ.)                    203 
18.) Steve Garland (Virginia University)              188
19.) John Stutzman (Buffalo SUNY, Bloomsburg) 186
20.) Dan Wirnsberger (Bucknell, Bloomsburg)     178
21.) Chris Bono (Wisconsin/South Dakota/U.Tenn.Chatt.)  153
22.) Jay Weiss (Harvard Univ.) –                           151
23.) John Mark Bentley (Appalachian State)        144
24.) Jason Borelli  (American/Stanford Univ.)  139
25.) Mark Branch (Wyoming Univ.) –                     137
26.) Zeke Jones (Ariz. St., Univ. Of Penn.)       123
27.) Mark Cody (Presbyterian, Oklahoma U., American U.) – 122
28.) Roger Kish (North Dakota State)                 114
29.) Doug Schwab (Northern Iowa)                   –    111
30.) Ryan Ludwig (Northern Illinois)                 –    106
31.) Greg Williams (Utah Valley State)             –     103
32.) Matt Azevedo (Drexel Un.)                         –    102
33.) Chris Ayres (Princeton)                               –    97
34.) Tony Ersland (Purdue)                                 –    80
35.) Scott Coleman (North Carolina)                  –    75 asst. coach in 2024

November 21, 2024 Posted by | Uncategorized | Leave a comment

2024 ACTIVE Coaches – Top Dual Wins – D-II

TDR Editor’s Notes ; The following are Active head coaches grouped by divisions. This listing is for coaches of NCAA Division II college teams. We welcome, input such as corrections and additions. Please contact us at the editor’s email … martinkfleming@gmail.com so we can update these lists accurately after each season. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Top 25 Division II ACTIVE Coaches with at least 75 wins   
1.) Pat Pecora (Pitt-Johnstown)                                 661   dec. 9-8-24
2.) Mike Denney (Maryville Univ./Nebr.-Omaha)     389   retired 2023
3.) Steve Costanzo (St. Cloud Univ.&Dana College)  333
4.) Jim Makovsky (Minn. St.-Mankato/Valley City St.)   326
5.) Robert Fisher (Kutztown Univ.)                           241
6.) Doug Henry (Gannon Univ.)                                233   retired 2023
7.) Heath Grimm (Upper Iowa Univ.)                       229
8.) Jason Reitmeier (Augustana College-S.D.)          225
9.) Mike Wehler (Mercyhurst, West Liberty State)   214
10.) James Kisgen (McKendree College)     –        152
11.) R.C. LaHaye (Lander U./Grand Canyon U.)   135 – II 
12.) Othello ‘O.T.’ Johnson (U. N.C.-Pembroke)  133
13.) Jason Warthan (Indianapolis Univ.)               132
14.) Jason Ramstetter (Adams State College)         131
15.) Chuck Piper (Colorado Mesa)                        129   retired 2023
16.) Kenn Caudell (Belmont-Abbey College)         127  retired 2023
17.) Dalton Jensen (Nebraska-Kearney)                  112
18.) Shawn Nelson (Findlay Univ.)                         107 inc.
19.) Seth Bloomquist (Shippensburg State)            105
20.) Todd Steidley (Central Oklahoma)                  101
21.) Dax Charles (Colorado State-Pueblo)                94
22.) Dock Kelly (Anderson)                                      93 ** now at NAIA school
23. Brett Hunter (Chadron State)                             88
24.) Brian Tucker (Seton Hill)                                   87
25.) Kris Nelson (SW Minnesota State)                    74

    November 21, 2024 Posted by | Uncategorized | | Leave a comment

    2024 ACTIVE Coaches – Top Dual Wins – D-III

    TDR Editor’s Notes ; The following are Active head coaches grouped by divisions. This listing is for coaches of NCAA Division III college teams. We welcome, input such as corrections and additions. Please contact us at the editor’s email … martinkfleming@gmail.com so we can update these lists accurately after each season. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    ACTIVE Coaches(D-III)– Top 35 (or so) with at least 100 wins
    1.) Roger Crebs (Lycoming College)                              450
    2.) Lonnie Morris (Johnson & Wales)                             446
    3.) Ron Beaschler (Ohio Northern Univ.)                        391
    4.) Bruce Haberli (New York University)                       345 
    5.) Dave Mitchell (Luther College)                                  327
    6.) Tim Fader (Wis.-Eau Claire,Whitewater, LaCrosse) 319
    7.) Martin Nichols (Ithaca College)                                 313
    8.) Jon Laudenslager (Wilkes University)                       290
    9.) John Oostendorp (Coe College)                               278
    10.) Jay Jones (Rhode Island College)                   274
    11.) Bryan Brunk   (Messiah College)                   266
    12.) Dave Malecek (Wisconsin-LaCrosse State)    232
    13. Drew Black (Wesleyan Univ.)                       227
    14.) Duane Ritter (SUNY Oneonta State)             207
    15.) Jon Egan (Roger Williams) –                          193
    16.) Mike Howard (SUNY-Oswego State)            189 
    17.) Eric Keller   (Wartburg College) –                   183
    18.) Jon McGovern (Dubuque University) –           178
    19.) Craig Thurber (Thiel College) –                      171
    20.) Jamie Gibbs (Baldwin-Wallace) –                   169
    21.) Brian Anderson (Wabash College) –               167
    22.) Joe Galente (College of New Jersey)              158
    23.) Leo Kocher (University of Chicago)                154 –  inc.  retired 2024
    24.) Steve Marianetti (Elmhurst College) –            152 
    25.) Eric Van Kley (Central College,) –                   148   
    26.) James Holder (Springfield College)                145
    27.) Brandon Bissette (Olivet College)                   138
    28.) Jason Garriques (Centenary College)             130
    29.) Greg Ilaria (U.S. Merchant Marine) –              127
    30.) Al Russomano (Scranton Univ.)                      119
    31.) Joe Favia (Stevens Institute of Tech.)              116
    32.) Duane Bastress (York College, Pa.)                 109
    33.) Keith Norris (John Hopkins Univ.)                  105
    34.) Nathan Shearer (Washington & Lee)               103
    35.) Bill Schindel (Adrian/Mount Union)               100
    36.) Scott Honacker (Williams College)                   98
    37.) Mike DeRoehn (Wisc-Platteville, Oshkosh, Lakeland) 94

    November 21, 2024 Posted by | Uncategorized | , , | Leave a comment

    2024 ACTIVE Coaches – Top Dual Wins – NAIA

    TDR Editor’s Notes ; The following are Active head coaches grouped by divisions. This listing is for coaches of NAIA college teams. We welcome, input such as corrections and additions. Please contact us at the editor’s email … martinkfleming@gmail.com so we can update these lists accurately after each season. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    ACTIVE Coaches   –   Top 20 with at least 50 wins                 
    1.) Franky James  (Campbellsville)                      251
    2.) Nick Mitchell (Grand View College)              182
    3.) Corey Ruff (Cumberlands/Lindsey-Wilson)   142
    4.) Tyson Thivierge (Montana State Northern)    121
    5.) Omi Acosta (Life University)                      — 109
    6.) Jake Stevenson (Morningside College)  —      104
    7.) Jeff Bedard (Reinhardt Univ.)                     —  101
    8.) K.C. Rock  (Embry-Riddle College)     –            98
    9.) Thomas Pompei (Indiana Institute of Tech.)    96
    10.) Rik Dahl (Northwestern College)                   90
    11.) Joey Martinez (Menlo)                                  88
    12.) James Hicks (Cumberland Univ./Darton        77
    13.) Dana Vote (Doane, Midland, Concordia)       68
    14.) James Kisgen (McKendree College)              66  now a Div. II school
    15.) Steven Bradley (Marian Univ.)                      66
    16.) Joe Privitere  (Briar Cliff)                             62
    17.) Lennie Zalesky (Calif. Baptist Univ.)             55  – now a D-I school
    18.) Beau Vest (Dana-Midland)                          55 – coaching at another level
    19.) Dustyn Azure (Eastern Oregon)                  54
    20.) Zach Mullins (Graceland Univ.)                   52

    November 21, 2024 Posted by | Uncategorized | , | Leave a comment

    2024 ACTIVE Coaches – Top Dual Wins – Junior Colleges

    TDR Editor’s Notes ; The following are Active head coaches grouped by divisions. This listing is for coaches of Junior College teams, Nationally and in California as they have seperate seasons. We welcome, input such as corrections and additions. Please contact us at the editor’s email … martinkfleming@gmail.com so we can update these lists accurately after each season. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    ACTIVE Coaches–  Top 20         JUCO with at least 28 wins

    1. Joe Renfro (NE Okla. A&M/Labette, Kan.)                     244
    2. Luke Moffitt (Iowa Central Comm. Coll.)                        205
    3. Josh Rhoden (Clackamas Comm. Coll.)                          169 – ret. 2022
    4. Jim Zeigler (Northwest Wyoming)                                 109  inc.
    5. Keith Maute (Niagara County C.C.)                                100
    6. Josh Watts (Iowa Western Comm. Coll./Darton)            90  inc.
    7. Art Castillo (Western Wyoming)                                      84  inc.
    8. Cole Spree (Indian Hills C.C./Ellsworth)                        79
    9. Cody Alesch (Iowa Lakes Comm. Coll)                            67
    10. Ken Kepley (Pratt Comm. Coll.)                                       61
    11. Adam Whitlach (S.Wern Oregon C.C.)                             56 – inc.
    12. Steve Kelly (North Iowa C.C.)                                           54
    13. Justin Signorelli (SUNY-Alfred/SUNY-Ulster)                 41
    14. Paul Schmidt (Nassau Comm. Coll.)                                 39  inc.
    15. Chris Leese (Penn State Mont Alto)                                  38  inc.
    16. Beau Vest (Cowley Comm. Coll.)                                      36
    17. Mike Bammes (Barton Comm. College)                           35
    18. Francis Beaujon (Lassen Comm. Coll.)                            34
    19. Tim Duggan (Triton C.C.)                                                  32
    20. John Chillem (Camden County Comm. Coll.)                 28  inc.

    ACTIVE Coaches California Junior Colleges  – Top 5 with 100 wins                    

    1.) Paul Keysaw (Fresno City/Moorpark College)       281
    2.) Jake Fitzpatrick (Santa Rosa College)                    250  — inc.
    3.) Dan Garriott (Cerritos College)                             177
    4.) Vince Silva (Santa Ana College)                            143
    5.) Joe Dansby (Cuesta College)                                116
    6.) Steve Siroy (Chabot College)                                  85 – inc

    November 21, 2024 Posted by | Uncategorized | , | Leave a comment

    2024 ACTIVE Coaches – Top Dual Wins – Women’s

    TDR Editor’s Notes ; The following are Active head coaches grouped by divisions. This listing is for coaches of Women’s college teams. We welcome, input such as corrections and additions. Please contact us at the editor’s email … martinkfleming@gmail.com so we can update these lists accurately after each season. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    ACTIVE Women’s CoachesTop 30 with 20 or more wins
    1.) Jason Moorman (King University)                             172 recently retired
    2.) Lee Miracle (Campbellsville)                                     112
    3.) Donnie Stephens (Univ. of the Cumberlands)             89
    4.) Link Davis (Emmanuel)                                              74
    5.) Ashley Sword-Buster (Life University)                       73
    6.) Paul Rademacher (Indiana Institute of Tech./South. Oregon)    65
    7.) Aaron Meister  (Friends/Wayland Baptist)                 55
    8.) Brian Jackson (Missouri Baptist)                               54 – inc.
    9.) Carl Murphree (Missouri Valley College)                  52  — inc
    10.) Joe Norton (North Central College)               48
    11.) Nick Goebel (Tiffin Univ.)                             44
    12.) Travis Mercado (Colorado Mesa Univ.)         43
    13.) Pauline Biega (Sacred Heart University)       40
    14. Tony DeAnda (Presbyterian Jamestown)       39 – inc.
    15.) Mahdi Bigdely (Ottawa Univ.)                       36
    16.) Joel Gibson (Southern Oregon)                      35
    17.) Joey Bareng (Menlo College)                         33 – inc.
    18.) Angelo Crinzi (Grand View Univ.)                 31
    19.) Devane Dodgens (Brewton-Parker)                30
    20.) Cliff Cushard (Adrian College)                      29
    21.) Shaunna Isbell Kent (Jamestown)                  29
    22.) Matt Stevens (Oklahoma City Univ.)                29
    23.) Bryce Killian (Emmanuel College)                28
    24.) Annabel Nieves (East Stroudsburg Univ.)       26
    25.) Cody Griswold (Elmira College)                   25
    26.) Tucker Black (William Penn College)            23
    27.) Kirwyn Adderley (Missiouri Baptist)              22
    28.) Brianna Delgado (Central Methodist Univ.)  21
    29.) Dominic Adams (Sienna Heights College)     21
    30.) Chuck Kearney (St. Mary, University of)      20

    November 21, 2024 Posted by | Uncategorized | , | Leave a comment

    Jones, McBryde sisters secure pins in women’s division at NWCA All-Star Classic

    STATE COLLEGE, Pa. – The women’s division at the 2024 NWCA All-Star Classic got the marquee college event off to an explosive start with three pins across the five NCAA versus NAIA themed matchups. Top ranked NCAA wrestler and returning NCWWC champion Amani Jones of North Central struck fast with an inside trip to the back in the opening seconds of her 124-pound bout against Grand View’s Maya Davis. Jones pounced with a claw-ride finish for a pin in 1:20 over the two-time NAIA All American.
    Jones is a two-time age-group World medalist for Team USA with bronze medal wins at the 2023 U20 World championships and the 2024 U23 World Championships. The Life duo of Jamilah and Latifah McBryde, both ranked No. 1 in the NAIA ranks, joined Jones with pinning combinations on Saturday evening at Penn State’s famed Rec Hall. It only took 48 seconds for Jamilah McBryde to end things against NCAA No. 2 Aine Drury of King at 145 pounds. Drury went for an over-under body lock toss, and nearly landed it, but McBryde was able float her hips over and wind up on top for the pin.
    Latifah McBryde was pushed a little harder by top-ranked NCAA athlete Cheyenne Bowman of King. Bowman took a 4-0 lead just over one minute into the 160-pound contest with a takedown-to-turn sequence. McBryde took the momentum in the back half of period one with a step out and takedown heading into the break. Early in the second period, McBryde went high-flyer off a Bowman single leg to get the pin in 3:40. Earning decision wins were athletes representing the NCAA division … more at … https://www.themat.com/news/2024/november/16/jones-mcbryde-sisters-secure-pins-in-women-s-division-at-nwca-all-star-classic?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

    November 20, 2024 Posted by | Uncategorized | , , , | Leave a comment

    Starocci stakes claim to 184 with sudden victory win over Keckeisen to cap eventful NWCA All-Star Classic

    STATE COLLEGE, Pa. – Round one to Carter Starocci. The four-time NCAA champion for Penn State defeated returning NCAA champion Parker Keckeisen of Northern Iowa in sudden victory overtime to punctuate an eventful night of wrestling at the 2024 NWCA All-Star Classic.
    The 184-pound showdown at Rec Hall was a match of positioning and patience. Starocci and Keckeisen dueled to a 1-1 stalemate at the end of regulation, both men earning an escape point. The only difference in the match to that point was negligible, Starocci escaping in seven seconds compared to Keckeisen’s 35-second escape time.
    In the two-minute sudden victory period, it was Starocci who controlled the center of the mat, doing well with his underhook tie. Starocci fought through a lengthy finish from an outside single leg attempt to end the match, 4-1, with 27 seconds left in overtime and send the Penn State faithful home on a positive note. Starocci bumped up from 174 pounds where he has won the last four NCAA tournaments and came into the season ranked No. 1 at 184 pounds. Keckeisen is the reigning 184-pound national champion and has finished in the top three of the weight class the past four years.
    Another Nittany Lion made the decision to bump up in weight and declared themselves a top contender with an impressive win on Saturday night. Levi Haines, last year’s NCAA champion at 157 pounds, took out No. 3 Cade Devos of South Dakota State, 7-0, to solidify his No. 2 ranking at 174 pounds. Haines looked every bit his normal self up two weight classes.
    Also picking up wins for the top-ranked Nittany Lions were No. 2 Shayne Van Ness at 149 pounds and No. 4 Tyler Kasak at 157 pounds, both of whom are past third-place finishers at the NCAAs. Van Ness put it on No. 3 Ty Watters of West Virginia with a 16-4 major decision win. Kasak emerged with a controlled, 4-2, win against No. 5 Peyten Kellar of Ohio. The 141-pound NCAA finals rematch between Ohio State’s Jesse Mendez and Penn State’s Beau Bartlett had a similar tenor to their previous matches. … more at … https://www.themat.com/news/2024/november/16/starocci-stakes-claim-to-184-with-sudden-victory-win-over-keckeisen-to-cap-eventful-nwca-all-star-classic?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

    November 20, 2024 Posted by | Uncategorized | , | Leave a comment